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Author Topic: Treacherous Tower Speedruns  (Read 6549 times)
Tryst
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« on: November 22, 2014, 01:06:30 AM »

I'm coming after you, Yoshistar95!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESgUm0cVBqo

2F is annoying. 10F is a pain in the ass. 11F is an even bigger pain in the ass if 10F was perfect. Other than that I've done a bit of timing with different strats for each room and can happily say that it's possible to shave at least 3 seconds off my run. Which means 0:42 is theoretically possible.

That said, all you (Yoshistar95) have as proof for your 0:44 is a picture and my route is something I've come up with by myself, so with our strategies combined even faster may be possible still!

I was also playing around with the Beginner level earlier and on several occasions got 0:07 after messing up. I get the feeling 0:06 is possible with absolutely perfect movement. After all, it's possible to get 0:08 without using the Pegasus Boots at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNrnbnW2lCY.

Update: I've now equalled Yoshistar95's 0:44 WR on the Intermediate stage. This route is different to my 0:45 in that I used a bottle on 10F and then used fruit to stun the mobs in 15F, allowing me to finish them off with a spin attack. My 0:45 route is definitely the faster one as mentioned above. My 0:44 is probably maxed at 0:44. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz0R7E3ZiSg

I've made a multi-YouTube thing to show both my 0:44 and 0:45 runs together. My 0:45 appears to be about a second ahead by 9F, so it may be possible to shave time off the 0:44 after all: http://www.SwigView.com/y2FLjJ6.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2014, 08:05:44 PM »

Nice going! But I honestly think 44 is max (because I hit 44 only twice, second looked nearly perfect).... a TAS would be nice to prove my theory wrong (oh and 6 seconds theory too at Beginner)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 08:10:49 PM by Yoshistar95 » Logged

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 09:15:30 PM »

Nice going! But I honestly think 44 is max (because I hit 44 only twice, second looked nearly perfect).... a TAS would be nice to prove my theory wrong (oh and 6 seconds theory too at Beginner)
I've actually hit 44 4 times now using a bottle on 10F and fruit at the end. It's a bit of a lame way of avoiding using a spin on 10F, but it works. I don't think it's faster to do it though. If you compare it with my 0:45 (http://www.swigview.com/y2FLjJ6), which uses a spin on 10F and bottle at the end, you'll see that I'm about a second ahead on my 0:45 before I even get to 4F. I completely messed up the start of my uploaded 0:44.

I've also just done a 4:19 on the Advanced tower with quite a few mistakes. It wouldn't surprise me if this level can be taken down to 3:40 - if not further.

Also check this out: I got knocked off the edge of the map in 50F before recording my 4:19 run but managed to finish the boss off by using a bottle whilst falling. Cheesy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I3VeBWwz3Q
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 12:54:30 AM »

I'm not sure if it's faster to not use the Net on 5F, but I've just done another 0:44 with a spin attack in that room instead. That gives me full health and the ability to shoot that beam from my sword throughout the entire tower stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2VzTPtx8M.

This is now the 9th 0:44 I've done. Almost all of which have incredibly minor mistakes, but mistakes nonetheless. The fact that I'm using Purple Potion on 10F makes the 0:44 really consistent. The only real nuisance now is managing to hit both of the green guys on 14F with one sword swing - as missing that almost guarantees 0:45.

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 08:04:33 PM »

43 seconds! Lucky Spin paid off again! Cheesy

I've added Dash in 6F (added it after second 44), 11F with your method (make a comparison with both our methods) and just sword at 14F. 42 is possible, I slashed 3 times while 2 is enough at 14F. Also, I had 44 without Lucky Spin, insane Shocked (missed one mummie, well.... it survived, lol (so 2 hits killed him, instead of 5)


Also, I think dashing is bad if you're about 2 Links from the door, not sure when you lose time compared to running, but I now don't dash in a few floors anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 09:57:09 PM »

43 seconds! Lucky Spin paid off again! Cheesy

I've added Dash in 6F (added it after second 44), 11F with your method (make a comparison with both our methods) and just sword at 14F. 42 is possible, I slashed 3 times while 2 is enough at 14F. Also, I had 44 without Lucky Spin, insane Shocked (missed one mummie, well.... it survived, lol (so 2 hits killed him, instead of 5)


Also, I think dashing is bad if you're about 2 Links from the door, not sure when you lose time compared to running, but I now don't dash in a few floors anymore.
Yes, a nice email this afternoon told me that you'd got 0:43. :-(
The proof wouldn't load for me though. I'm looking forward to seeing it though!

Out of curiosity are you using my 15F strat? I think it may save time to use the bottle you save from 10F on 12F, as on 15F you don't have to worry about exiting the room.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 07:37:36 PM »

I use purple on 15F, it can be done quicker than I first thought, a second delay is enough. 12F is Big Spin + Fire Rod, it's RNG based strat, but it works for me.

Again 44 without Lucky Spin, 42 is 100% for sure possible Smiley (41 true max?)

Edit:

Again 43! I made an ending result video, so yay!
11F was bad due to missing the one upper right, if I hit him with my sword, then 42 MIGHT have happened Shocked

Edit 2:

42 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awq5lheWa2s
Still same strat, ending is done much quicker than it used to be Smiley (you just need to get the timing, too soon is bad, too late doesn't matter much)
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2014, 10:18:45 AM »

I've gotten 0:42 and 3:55 respectively. Both were pretty trivial and if someone wanted to grind seriously you could get 0:41 and at least 3:45, if not 3:40.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 11:11:22 AM »

Great to see more activity on this. Good job on the 0:42 both of you!

Unfortunately I've been away from my PC so haven't been able to record anything - my laptop isn't powerful enough, sadly.
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